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the index for Korean Language Series here. Please read the previous series before reading this post, because the Korean is writing the series with the assumption that you already know what the Korean provided previously.
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I saw in your earlier posts that you had given a quick overview of the Korean language, however I didn't see any posts about the Korean number system. I know that there are two ways to count in Korean, Sino-Korean and, I guess you'd call it pure Korean, but how do you know when to use which? Also, how do you tell time in Korean with these two number systems?
Marisa L.
Dear Korean,
If I am going to learn Korean, should I learn native Korean or Sino-Korean?
Jamie F.
Dear Marisa and Jamie,
Let us answer Jamie’s question first, because it touches upon an important concept in Korean language. Since Korea spent its entire history next to China, a giant of world culture, much of Korean culture – including language – has elements of Chinese influence. This was much more true in the old days (up to 18th century or so,) when the educated class of Korea wrote in Chinese although they spoke in Korean. This influence survives in Korean language today as
Sino-Korean vocabularies, which is just a fancy term that means “Korean words that originated from Chinese.” Currently, around 60 percent of Korean vocabularies are Sino-Korean.
Native Korean and Sino-Korean
The relationship is much like Latin-based English vocabularies – while Latin and English have significantly different grammar structures, English borrowed a lot of words from Latin. The same with Korean and Chinese. So, to answer Jamie’s question – Sino-Korean is native Korean. More accurately, Sino-Korean is an inseparable part of Korean language. If one wishes to learn Korean, one has to learn Sino-Korean. In fact, knowledge of Sino-Chinese is crucial not simply because it is an integral part of Korean, but also because Sino-Chinese is disproportionately represented in high-level Korean vocabularies. (This is again parallel to Latin-based English vocabularies.)
The existence of Sino-Korean vocabularies makes it seem like knowing Chinese would be helpful toward learning Korean. That could be true, but the actual use of Sino-Korean words in Korean actually may lead to confuse Chinese speakers. There are at least two possible points of confusion.
First, Sino-Korean words can be expressed in Chinese characters, but the pronunciation is different in Chinese and in Korean. For example, the word for “society” is 社會 in Mandarin Chinese, which is pronounced “she-hui”. Korean word for “society” is Sino-Korean that uses the same characters. But when Koreans see 社會, they read it as: “sa-hwae.” (The Korean only knows Mandarin Chinese, but he is told that Korean pronunciation of Chinese characters is actually closer to Cantonese Chinese.)
Second, while Sino-Korean words can be expressed in Chinese, the two languages may differ in their uses of the Chinese characters because the two languages evolved separately. For example, 酒 in Chinese means “wine”, and 店 means “store”. Put together, Koreans understand 酒店 (written and pronounced as 주점 in Korean) as meaning “bar”. But Chinese understand 酒店 (pronounced as “jiu dian” in Mandarin) as meaning “hotel”.
Sometimes, this divergence between Chinese and Sino-Korean happened because Koreans came to adopt a Sino-Japanese word and pronounce the word in Korean. For example, the word for an automobile is 自動車 in Sino-Japanese (“jidousha,” or “self-moving cart”) and 汽車 in Chinese (“qi-che” or “steam-cart”). Koreans ended up adopting 自動車, but pronounce the word as 자동차 (“ja-dong-cha”) because that’s how Koreans pronounced those three Chinese characters.
The new Hyundai Sonata, a 자동차 that is poised to take the 2010-11 market by storm.
Numbers, in Native and Sino-Korean
Now, let us turn to Marisa’s question. As Marisa pointed out, there are some cases in which native Korean words and Sino-Korean words co-exist for the same meaning. Numbers are the most representative case. Without further ado, here is how to count in native Korean and Sino-Korean. (The chart below shows cardinal numbers only. For ordinal numbers, see “Advanced Stuff” below.)
Number | Native | Sino (with Chinese characters) |
1 | 하나/한 | 일 一 |
2 | 둘/두 | 이 二 |
3 | 셋/세 | 삼 三 |
4 | 넷/네 | 사 四 |
5 | 다섯 | 오 五 |
6 | 여섯 | 육 六 |
7 | 일곱 | 칠 七 |
8 | 여덟 | 팔 八 |
9 | 아홉 | 구 九 |
10 | 열 | 십 十 |
11 | 열하나 (“ten-one”) | 십일 十一(“ten-one”) |
… | … | … |
20 | 스물 | 이십 二十 (“two-ten”) |
21 | 스물하나 (“twenty-one”) | 이십일 二十一(“twenty-one”) |
… | … | … |
30 | 서른 | 삼십 三十 (“three-ten”) |
40 | 마흔 | 사십 四十 |
50 | 쉰 | 오십 五十 |
60 | 예순 | 육십 六十 |
70 | 일흔 | 칠십 七十 |
80 | 여든 | 팔십 八十 |
90 | 아흔 | 구십 九十 |
100 | 온 (rarely used) | 백 百 |
1000 | 즈믄 (rarely used) | 천 千 |
1,0000 | 골 (rarely used) | 만 萬 |
10,0000 |
| 십만 十萬 (“ten ten thousand”) |
100,0000 |
| 백만 百萬 (“hundred ten thousand”) |
1000,0000 |
| 천만 千萬 (“thousand ten thousand”) |
1,0000,0000 |
| 억 億 |
1,0000,0000,0000 |
| 조 兆 |
1,0000,0000,0000,0000 |
| 경 京 |
Based on the chart, you can see a few patterns.
First, larger numbers are formed logically by combining smaller numbers. For example, “thirteen” is either “열셋” or “십삼”, both literally meaning “ten-three”. Sino-Korean is better at forming large numbers, because the larger numbers progress more logically. For example, “fifty” is 쉰 in native Korean, which is a stand-alone vocabulary that cannot be broken down further. However, “fifty” is 오십 in Sino-Korean, which can be broken down as “five-ten”. (Many hypothesized that this characteristic contributed to Asians being better at math.)
Second, you may have noticed that the Korean broke down large numbers with four zeros between commas instead of three. The Korean did that for your convenience. Large numbers are broken down with three numbers because in English and most European languages, the unit “jumps” at every thousand. (For example, a “thousand thousand” is a “million”, and a “thousand million” is a “billion”.) But in Chinese and Korean, the unit jumps at every ten thousand. So for example, the unit 억 (=108) goes all the way up to 천억 (“thousand 억”, i.e. thousand 108) before it jumps to 조. In other words, 만억 (“ten thousand 억”) or 십천 (“ten thousand”) are incorrect in Korean.
It's all about the 신사임당, baby.
(Notice how KRW 50,000 is spelled 오만원)
(However, it must be noted that in Korea, the numbers are still broken out by three digits although there is no real reason why they should be broken out that way.)
Third, notice that in the native Korean, there are two entries for numbers 1 through 4. The first one is when the number is used as a noun. The second is when the number is used as an adjective. So, for example, if someone is exercising and simply narrating “one, two, three, four” for the sake of rhythm, s/he would say “하나, 둘, 셋, 넷” and not “한, 두, 세, 네” because the numbers are nouns in that context. But if someone is talking about “two people”, s/he would say “두 사람” instead of “둘 사람”, because “two” as an adjective modifies the noun “people” in that phrase.
Then the big question is – when do you use the native counting system versus the Sino-Korean counting system? But before we can get to that, we have to address another concept in Korean that is crucially related to numbers – “counters”.
More about counters, how to count in Korean, how to tell time in Korean and advanced materials, after the jump. Got a question or a comment for the Korean? Email away at askakorean@gmail.com.
Counters
Counter is a noun that are associated with a number. An equivalent English example is “piece”, as in “a piece of paper”. But while English only uses counters for things that can only counted in a bound form (e.g. piece, cup, slice, etc.,) Korean uses counters to count pretty much all nouns. Some counters must be associated with a number, while other counters may stand alone. For example, the counter 그루 (counter for trees) must be associated with a number, since it has no meaning on its own. But the counter 잔 ("cup") can stand alone as a noun meaning "cup", as well as serve as a counter for something that goes into the cup. (For example, 소주 한 잔, i.e. "a glass of soju".)
The tricky part about counters is that there are different counters for different types of nouns. For example, majority of objects use 개, like 사과 한 개 (“one apple”). But for long objects with a handle, the correct counter is 자루, like 칼 세 자루 (“three knives”). Another tricky one is 마리 versus 명. 마리 is used with animals, like 강아지 네 마리 (“four puppies”). 명 is used with people, like 의사 두 명 (“two doctors”). You absolutely do NOT want to use 마리 to describe a person, because it implies that the person is an animal.
(Also, notice in the examples above that “한, 두, 세, 네” are used as opposed to “하나, 둘, 셋, 넷” because the numbers, as adjectives, modify the counters.)
That much is enough for this part. For the full list of counters, please see the “Advanced Stuff” section below.
How to Count in Korean
Now we are actually ready to count in Korean. There are four ways to count in Korean.
(a) noun-number
학생 셋이 찾아왔다
Literal translation: Student three came to visit.
Correct translation: Three students came to visit.
(b) noun-number-counter
학생 세 명이 찾아왔다
Literal translation: Student three persons came to visit.
Correct translation: Three students came to visit.
(c) number-noun
세 학생이 찾아왔다
Literal translation: Three student came to visit
Correct translation: Three students came to visit.
(d) number-counter-의-noun
세 명의 학생이 찾아왔다
Literal translation – There persons of student came to visit.
Correct translation: Three students came to visit.
All four of the above are grammatically correct, although they all convey slightly different nuances. (b) is the most colloquial and has nearly no restrictions. (d) is the most literal and used nearly exclusively in written texts. (c) somewhat implies that we know the three students previously, and only certain types of nouns are used in (c) (For example, it is fine to say 두 학교 (“two schools”), but ungrammatical to say 세 나무 (“three trees”)). (a) and (c) cannot be used with nouns that cannot be counted, since neither construction has a counter involved.
Notice the variant uses between 셋 and 세, depending on whether “three” specifically modifies a noun in the sentence.
When to Use Native and Sino-Korean Numbers
Like almost all language rules, there is no particular rhyme or reason for when the two systems are used. But there are broad rules about how those two systems work. (Remember the first rule of language learning –
when it doubt, memorize.)
(1) Sino-Korean is used with large numbers. You may notice that the native Korean words for hundred and above are rarely used. In fact, it is likely that an average Korean would not even know the native Korean term for hundred, thousand, etc. In practice, native Korean tends to be used for numbers less than 30, and Sino-Korean tends to be used for numbers greater than 30. A big exception to this, however, is when counting ages, in which case native Korean counting system is used about as frequently as Sino-Korean.
(2) Only Sino-Korean is used in math formulas. 1 + 3 = 4 is read as 일 더하기 삼은 사, not 하나 더하기 셋은 넷.
(3) Only native Korean number is used when there is no counter. This means that the constructs (a) and (c) above can only be made with native Korean numbers.
(4) Certain counters only match with native Korean, other counters only match with Sino-Korean, and still other counters match with both. This is detailed in the Advanced Stuff below.
These rules are not ironclad, and people often change them arbitrarily in a colloquial setting. The best way to memorize them is simply to see a lot of different sentences, and memorize the entire context, not just the rules.
Telling Time in Korean
Finally! We get to the part about how to tell time in Korean. Like most other “things” in Korean, time is measured by counters – 시 for “hour”, 분 for “minute” and 초 for “second”.
The Korean mentioned earlier that each counter matches up differently, either with native Korean numbers, Sino-Korean numbers, or both. With these three counters, 시 matches up only with native Korean numbers, while 분 and 초 match up only with Sino-Korean numbers.
Also, Korea uses American style time, not European style time. In other words, 1:30 in the afternoon is not 13:30.
Here are some general time-related words in Korean:
오전 – before noon
오후 – after noon
아침 – morning (after sunrise)
정오 – noon
저녁 – evening
밤 – night
새벽 – dawn (between midnight and sunrise)
Now, let’s tell some time. If a digital clock displays “3:22:08”, how do you read that in Korean?
Remember which counters to use, and which number system to use – native or Sino. Recall that hour is native, minute and second Sino. So “3:22:08” reads as: 세 시 이십이 분 팔 초.
What if the clock displays: "11:34 p.m."? "a.m." and "p.m." in Korean are translated into one of the time-related words above. So "11:34 p.m." reads as either 저녁 열한 시 삼십사 분 or 밤 열한 시 삼십사 분. Be aware that while English-speakers might read "2:13 a.m." as "two-thirteen in the morning", Koreans would read it as 새벽 두 시 십삼 분, not 아침 두 시 십삼 분. For Koreans, 아침 does not start until the sun rises.
What if you wanted to talk about duration, not the exact moment? For example, how would you say "I will visit two hours and thirty-two minutes later"? In that case, only the "hour" counter changes from 시 to 시간. So the equivalent translation is: "두 시간 삼십이 분 후에 오겠습니다."
Hurry, Jack Bauer! There is only 이십이 시간 십삼 분 사십구 초 left!
A couple of useful expressions to close. 정각 is used to say "exactly on the hour." So if you wanted to say, "Let's meet at 1 o'clock", you would say in Korean: 한 시에 만납시다. But if you wanted to say, "Let's meet
exactly at 1 o'clock", you would say in Korean: 한 시 정각에 만납시다.
전 is used to say "until" within the context of time-telling. So if you wanted to say, "It is 5 minutes until 12 o'clock", you would say in Korean: "12시 5분 전입니다."
Advanced Stuff: Read Only If You Are Hardcore
- How to form ordinal numbers: For native Korean, add 째 at the end. So it goes 둘째, 셋째, 넷째 (second, third, fourth...) Note that "first" is irregular; it is 첫째, not 하나째. Also note that unlike English, ordinal numbers in Korean are both adjective and noun. (In English, ordinal numbers are adjective only.) So for example, it is fully grammatical to say 우리 둘째는 참 착해. ("Our second [child] is very kind.").
For Sino-Korean, ordinal number is formed by adding 제 in front. So it goes: 제일, 제이, 제삼... Fortunately, there is no irregularity here. For example, it is very common to see a church named 제일 교회, which means "First Church".
- No plural nouns in Korean: It is notable that in Korean, there is no plural noun because nouns are never conjugated in Korean. (See the
earlier series on particles for an explanation.) The auxiliary particle (which is not yet covered) 들 can be attached to a noun to signify a plural, but it is perfectly grammatical not to include 들. For example, 세 학생들이 찾아왔다 and 세 학생이 찾아왔다 are both grammatically correct.
- List of all counters: Here is a list of counters the Korean can think of, associated with their use and their match with native or Sino-Korean numbers. Recall that generally, numbers over 30 are expressed in Sino-Korean numbers regardless of the specific match. In other words, the "matches" only apply to the numbers under 30. Also, please note that some counters act differently when used with cardinal versus ordinal numbers.
Because the Korean is not being paid to do this, he mostly included the counters that cannot stand alone in this chart. Keep in mind that, in addition to the counters in this chart, pretty much any noun signifying a container/vessel can serve as a counter. So for example, 가마니("sack"), 통 ("container"), 접시 ("plate"), 상자 ("box"), etc., can all serve as both stand-alone nouns and counters.
The Korean guarantees he missed some, because there are tons of counters in Korean. Don't get snarky.
Counter | Types of noun (Example) | Native, Sino or both? |
개 | Nearly all objects, except for those below (사과 열 개; “ten apples”) | Native |
마리 | Animals (소 다섯 마리; “five cows”) | Native |
명 | People (군인 세 명; “three soldiers”) | Native |
자루 | Long object, sometimes with a handle (연필 한 자루; “one pencil”) | Native |
그루 | Trees (나무 열 그루; “five trees”) | Native |
켤레 | Pair, for either shoes or socks (양말 네 켤레; “four pairs of socks) | Native |
벌 | Clothes, set (양복 한 벌; “one set of suit”) | Native |
채 | Buildings (집 세 채; “three houses”) | Native |
권 | Books, with cardinal numbers (수첩 다섯 권; “five notebooks”) | Native |
권 | Volume, with ordinal numbers (민법 제 사 권; “Civil Law, Volume Four”) | Sino |
두름 | Bundled objects (오징어 세 두름; “three bundles of squid”) | Native |
단 | Bundled objects (파 네 단; “four bundles of scallions”) | Native |
장 | Paper or thin, flat objects, with cardinal numbers (색종이 열 장; “ten sheets of colored paper”) | Native |
장 | Chapter, with ordinal numbers (마테오복음 제 삼 장; “Gospel of Matthew, Chapter three”) | Sino |
킬로그램 | Weight (kilogram) (밀가루 칠 킬로그램; “seven kilograms of flour”) | Sino |
킬로미터 | Distance (kilometer) (오 킬로미터의 길; “five kilometers of road”) | Sino |
리 | Distance (Chinese mile) (십오 리; “fifteen miles”) | Sino |
판 | A board full of objects, with cardinal numbers (계란 네 판; “four boards of eggs”) | Native |
판 | Edition, with ordinal numbers (민법 제 이 판; “Civil Law, Second Edition”) | Sino |
살 | Age (쉰 다섯 살; “fifty-five years old”) | Native |
세 | Age (오십오 세; “fifty-five years old”) | Sino |
잔 | Cup, glass (물 한 잔; “a glass of water”) | Native |
대 | Machine (자동차 한 대; “one car”) | Native |
기 | Class (in school), with ordinal numbers (대원고 14기; Daewon High School, 14th graduating class) | Sino |
- Irregular number-adjectives: Earlier in the post, the Korean mentioned that one, two, three, four have different forms for noun and adjective in Korean. Rarely, there are some counters that require irregular adjective forms of certain numbers. For example, for the counter 되 (a traditional container measuring .477 gallon), "three 되" is 석 되, not 세 되. "Four 되" is "넉 되", not "네 되". Similarly, the counter 자 (a Chinese yard), "three 자" is 석 자, and "four 자" is 넉 자. For the counter 말 (= 10 되), "three 말" is 서 말, not 세 말.
While these irregular forms are maddening, the good news is that they are generally associated with very traditional counters. Those counters are not often used in modern Korean such that regular Koreans would often get them wrong.
- Very large numbers: While the Korean stopped at 경, there are more Sino-Korean terms that describe even greater numbers. These numbers sometimes make an appearance when global economy or distance in space is discussed. The Korean will start from 억, which is 10
8.
10
8 –
억 億 1012 – 조 兆
1016 – 경 京
1020 – 해 垓
1024 – 자 秭
1028 – 양 穰
1032 – 구 溝
1036 – 간 澗
1040 – 정 正
1044 – 재 載
1048 – 극 極
1052 – 항하사 恒河沙
1056 – 아승기 阿僧祇
1060 – 나유타 那由他
1064 – 불가사의 不可思議
1068 – 무량대수 無量大數The names for the extremely large numbers are quite interesting in their Buddhism-based origin. 항하사 means "the sand always present in the river." 불가사의 means "unimaginable". 무량대수 means "large number that has no quantity." - Swearing pun: Here is a reward for reading all the way down here. Korean word for "f-word" has the same pronunciation as 18 in Sino-Korean. Because of that, texting "1818" is one way to text "eff you" in Korea. Got a question or a comment for the Korean? Email away at askakorean@gmail.com.
